NEWS: Shonen Jump Magazine launches 4 new manga in the next 4 weeks [1/2] -Forum


NEWS: Shonen Jump Magazine launches 4 new manga in the next 4 weeks [1/2] -Forum
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4 new titles. Four future cancellations

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DamianSalazar

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BaronViolet wrote:

4 new titles. Four future cancellations

And the negative Nancys rolled out. At least read it before judging.


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WANNFH

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BaronViolet wrote:

4 new titles. Four future cancellations

Well, at least Nisio returning to the Jump might seem like fun, considering Medaka Box.


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Damien Salazar wrote:
BaronViolet wrote:

4 new titles. Four future cancellations

And the negative Nancys rolled out. At least read it before judging.

WSJ has been a lot fiercer lately, even though they aren’t doing Thanos manga anytime soon.


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WANNFH

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Hoppy800 wrote:

WSJ has been a lot fiercer lately, even though they aren’t doing Thanos manga anytime soon.

Well who’s to blame that literally every 2022 release outside of Akane-Banashi and RuriDragon sucked up ToC ratings and sales so much that honestly there’s nothing to do but their put down the ax as soon as possible.


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If only switching to Jump+ could be their main alternative rather than switching too early when they don’t reach their quota soon enough. Either way, I’ll be reading them all as always, so good luck to the creators.

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BaronViolet wrote:

@DamianSalazar LL-cut

WSJ gave them a chance, they just failed to gain an audience. If you can attract readers with 2 volumes of history, then maybe the problem is that your series just sucks. No reader will say “those 2 volumes are bad but I’ll keep buying them until they get good” / Most people drop a manga at the first volume if they haven’t grabbed it. It’s no surprise that all of the canceled series sold terribly and ranked terribly.


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DamianSalazar

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BaronViolet wrote:

@DamianSalazar LL-cut

They gave them a chance. The authors wasted the editor’s time by playing terribly with the readers. the longer they stay, the more they prevent new perpetrators from getting shot.

Hoppy800 wrote:
Damien Salazar wrote:
BaronViolet wrote:

4 new titles. Four future cancellations

And the negative Nancys rolled out. At least read it before judging.

WSJ has been a lot fiercer lately, even though they aren’t doing Thanos manga anytime soon.

Even so, it seems that older series (except One Piece, JJK, and Sakamoto Days) appear more often in the backpages.


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Yune Amagiri wrote:

If only switching to Jump+ could be their main alternative rather than switching too early when they don’t reach their quota soon enough. Either way, I’ll be reading them all as always, so good luck to the creators.

I get why people want this, but there really isn’t a good reason why they would move things to Jump+. Of course, Jump+ has no physical limit to the number of series it can host, but it is a limit on the amount of editorial labor the publisher can commit to it, as with any other magazine. If a series fails in the mainstream magazine – i.e. the largest printed manga publication – there’s no reason to think it would suddenly start getting a dedicated readership once it was solely digital and would still compete with not just the regular WSJ lineup, but the Jump+ Catalog as well. So why continue to dedicate editors, assistants, and marketing resources to a failing series when you can shift them to newer series that have at least a theoretical chance of doing better?

Regarding the new series, I am interested to see the new work of Taizan 5. I was not crazy Takopi’s Original Sin, but it was certainly unique and ambitious, so I’m curious to see what they do next. I’m also interested in Jinzo Ningen 100. The other two…not so much. I can’t stand Nisio Isin’s writing at the best of times, and Medaka Box was hot trash. Meanwhile, Hayashi’s new thing seems like another gag series, and I really didn’t like the humor in I am from Japan so I think it’s going to be a pass.


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Shay Guy

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lossthief wrote:

Regarding the new series, I am interested to see the new work of Taizan 5. I was not crazy Takopi’s Original Sinbut it was certainly unique and ambitious, so I’m curious to see what they do next.

And for anyone feeling pessimistic, Takopi was one of Jump+’s biggest hits despite only being two volumes, so this mangaka has proven to pick up an audience quickly.

lossthief wrote:

I can’t stand Nisio Isin’s writing at the best of times, and Medaka Box was hot trash.

I compared it to a NaNoWriMo project when I was reading it, but it sure could be interesting. (Maybe I should come back to this one day; I’ve come about three-quarters of the way, about to the point where divulge[the villain declared that from then on, it’d be a crappy romance manga instead of a crappy battle manga].)


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DamianSalazar

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lossthief wrote:
Yune Amagiri wrote:

If only switching to Jump+ could be their main alternative rather than switching too early when they don’t reach their quota soon enough. Either way, I’ll be reading them all as always, so good luck to the creators.

I get why people want this, but there really isn’t a good reason why they would move things to Jump+. Of course, Jump+ has no physical limit to the number of series it can host, but it is a limit on the amount of editorial labor the publisher can commit to it, as with any other magazine. If a series fails in the mainstream magazine – i.e. the largest printed manga publication – there’s no reason to think it would suddenly start getting a dedicated readership once it was solely digital and would still compete with not just the regular WSJ lineup, but the Jump+ Catalog as well. So why continue to dedicate editors, assistants, and marketing resources to a failing series when you can shift them to newer series that have at least a theoretical chance of doing better?

Also, I think new creators are more likely to build their brand awareness on a site like Twitter or pixiv before a major publisher acquires it.


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Gem-Bug

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As others have said, these series, each series they run gets his chance. But the metrics/bars that WSJ seems to use are very high, maybe they always have been. The series needs to work well right away, keep it going, and probably needs to be something that can be adapted to an anime down the line.

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Hoppy800 wrote:
Damien Salazar wrote:
BaronViolet wrote:

4 new titles. Four future cancellations

And the negative Nancys rolled out. At least read it before judging.

WSJ has been a lot fiercer lately, even though they aren’t doing Thanos manga anytime soon.

WSJ has always been that cutthroat. Hand ran for 10 whole chapters in 2006.


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simona.com

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Joel Burger wrote:

WSJ has always been that cutthroat. Hand ran for 10 whole chapters in 2006.

I loved this series (TωT)


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The MonkeySleepy

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I liked Medaka Box, so I’m curious to see what Nishio does.

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